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• #3501 BoogeyM@n. aktív tag Iron Funeral #3496

  2011-04-05 13:34:19 #3501

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  válasz Iron Funeral #3496 üzenetére

  -Az, hogy mekkora döntést látsz, meg az, hogy mivel számol a játék(ez kapásból két féle érték)
  Nincs ilyen hogy amit látsz hanem a játékot alapból úgy csinálták meg hogy korhű legyen
  szvsz minden tank olyan értékekkel bír mint ami a valóságban is volt szószó ha 30 vagy 40 esetleg 55fokos döntés volt akkor annyi is lesz ami valójában a párja volt.
  Egész pontosan a KT 40° a panther 55° volt sajna a löwe nincs de lehet hogy 60
  De nagy sebbeséget ne várjál tőle
  +The Löwe was a German Super Heavy tank which never saw production during World War II
  Other names known paperpanzer xD

  Schwerer Löwe – crew of five, 1000-hp engine, weight of 90 tons, 120-mm frontal armor, center-mounted turret, 105 mm L/70 high velocity gun and a coaxial machine gun, top speed [B23 km/h.]
  ?pontosan hol van a fórumban linkeld be légyszi
  +lépjünk kicsit a tények mezejére↓

  Penetration Mechanics

  Once you have hit the enemy, the game then calculates where the shot hit the enemy, at what angle you struck the armor, the effective thickness of the armor (based on the angle), speed, width, and weight of the shell, whether you penetrated the armor, and if so, what was in the path of your shell after striking the armor. A shell can indeed pass clean through a tank.

  Note that shell speed falls with distance traveled and thus, AP ammunition can get significant reductions in penetration when firing at distant targets. HE ammunition penetration is not affected by distance.

  * At 100m - gun has 100% penetration (+/- 25% random)
  * At 500m - approx -20% to -25% to it's penetration value (varies based on the exit velocity of the shell from the gun).
  * With distance, from 100m to 500m, penetration degrades linearly.

  If all the above was not enough to calculate, Penetration value varies every time you fire your gun. This variation can be up to a 25% plus or minus penetration value and is based on a Gaussian (normal) distribution curve. Shell Damage also varies in the same manner.

  Penetration is such a huge aspect to World of Tanks
  these are the six variables that are included in calculating penetration:

  1. - Shell penetration statistic
  2. - Shell penetration variation
  3. - Shell normalization
  4. - Distance to target (range reduced penetration)
  5. - Thickness of target's armor
  6. - Angle of incidence to target's armor

  So, every time you fire a Shell at a target, the server does the following five calculations: Angle of incidence Angle of incidence can also be written as 90 - angle to the horizontal. Since few of us are math majors, I'm going to reverse the calculations so that 90 degrees is a T angle penetration (90 degrees is thus the best angle and 0 is the worst). I will call this the attack angle.

  Ricochet Simplification

  The projectiles and the angles of impact are idealised, to make calculations less complex. Every angle of impact lower than 20 degrees counts as a ricochet! (10 degrees plus the 10 degree shell normalization). With one exception: If caliber of the projectile is three times greater than the armor and the angle is greater than 8 degrees, the shot will penetrate. All shells have a ricochet value and an idealization value. These are 20 and 8 degrees, for the most part, of the shells.

  1. Check for ricochet. If your attack angle is lower than 10 degrees (or, in other words, almost parallels the armor), your Shell will ricochet and you will not penetrate. If your Shell size (in mm) is at least three times the amount of armor (in mm) you are attacking, your Shell will not ricochet (unless angle is less than 8 degrees). If your Shell's penetration (in mm) is at least two times the amount of armor (in mm) you are attacking, your Shell will not ricochet (unless angle is less than 8 degrees).
  2. The Shell is normalized to the center line. When a Shell first comes in contact with armor, it will screw itself somewhat into the armor. This action increases the angle of attack, as the Shell tends to "right" itself towards a right angle (90 degrees) to the armor. Each Shell has a different value of normalization, but it normally increases the attack angle by 10 degrees.
  3. Calculate thickness of armor. The minimum armor thickness is the tank's section of armor that you are hitting. If there is an attack angle to the shell, due to armor slope and/or angle from which you fired at the target, this increases the armor thickness that your Shell has to penetrate. For a more thorough explanation (and very helpful picture), see here.

  * The basic formula for LOS (line of sight) armor is: LOS armor = base thickness / cos(angle of incidence){ed note: this formula not reversed}.
  * Remember that for an attack angle shot (where 90 degrees is a straight side shot), the formula is effective armor = base thickness / sin (attack angle).
  * Also note that in Excel (which uses radians, not degrees), the formula would be effective armor = base thickness / sin(Radians(attack angle).
  * Armor with with a 30 degree slope would be effective armor = base thickness / cos(sloop angle) {Slope angles are typically not reversed. Thus, a 30 degree slope provides better protection than a 60 sloop}

  1. Calculate penetration value of the shell. The base stat of your tank's gun and Shell are used as the basis for this calculation. The distance between you and the target is also considered. At 100m, you will have 100% of your Shell penetration, but this decreases linearly down to 80% at 500m. Next, the penetration value is modified by Gaussian distribution with an upper limit of +25% and a lower limit of -25%. In other words, your Shell may have an actual penetration value of 75% - 125% of the displayed value (without range figured).
  2. Compare the calculated penetration value to the calculated thickness of the armor. If the penetration value is larger than the thickness value, you penetrate and deal damage.

  Penetration Multipliers
  90 1x
  80 1.02x
  70 1.06x
  60 1.15x
  50 1.31x
  40 1.56x
  30 2.00x
  20 2.92x
  10 5.76x
  5 11.47x

  The table to the right gives the effective armor increase multiplier for the Attack Angle and the armor slope (the angle from the flat horizontal), so straight up and down armor would be 90 degrees and a multiple of 1, and thus no increase in the effective armor.

  EXAMPLE 1:Armorpenexample1.jpg

  You fire a Shell with 100mm of penetration at a target 500m away. The target is at a 90 degree attack angle to you, and his armor is not sloped with a thickness of 75mm. Let's go through the steps.

  1. Check for ricochet. You are at more than an 10 degree attack angle. No ricochet.
  2. Shell is normalized. The target is at a 90 degree angle to you, so the Shell does not need to normalize.
  3. Calculate thickness of armor. The target is at a 90 degree angle to you, so 75mm / cos(0) = 75mm
  4. Calculate penetration. Your base penetration stat is 100mm. You are at a distance of 500m. So, our adjustment for distance leaves us at 100 * 80% = 80mm penetration. With the Gaussian distribution, our Shell may have a penetration value of 60mm to 100mm.
  5. Compare penetration to thickness. Our penetration value lies within 60mm - 100mm versus 75mm armor. We have a very-high chance of penetrating.

  EXAMPLE 2:Armorpenexample2B.jpg

  You fire a Shell with 100mm of penetration at a target 300m away. The target is at a 45 degree angle to you, and his armor is not sloped with a thickness of 75mm. Let's go through the steps.

  1. Check for ricochet. You are at more than a 10 degree attack angle. No ricochet.
  2. Shell is normalized. The attack angles is increased by 10. Target is at a virtual 55 degree angle to you.
  3. Calculate thickness of armor. Virtual armor = 75mm / cos(35 degrees). The 35 degree is the angle of incidence calculated from the angle of attack in step 2 (90o - 55o = 35o). The result is 91.5mm.
  4. Calculate penetration. Your base penetration stat is 100mm. You are at a distance of 300m, which is halfway between 100m (full penetration) and 500m (80% penetration). So, our adjustment for distance leaves us at 100 * 90% = 90mm penetration. With the Gaussian distribution, our Shell may have a penetration value of 67.5mm to 112.5mm.
  5. Compare penetration to thickness. Our penetration value lies within 67.5mm - 112.5mm versus 91.5mm. We have a slightly-less than average chance of penetrating.

  EXAMPLE 3:Armorpenexample3.jpg

  You fire a Shell with 100mm of penetration at a target 100m away. The target is at a 45 degree attack angle to you, and his armor has a slope of 30 degrees from the vertical with a thickness of 75mm. Let's go through the steps.

  1. Check for ricochet. You are at more than a 10 degree attack angle. No ricochet.
  2. Shell is normalized. The attack angle is increased by 10. Target is at a virtual 55 degree attack angle to you and a slope of 20 degrees.
  3. Calculate thickness of armor. Virtual armor = 75mm / cos(35 degrees) / cos(20 degrees). The 35 degree is the angle of incidence calculated from the angle of attack in step 2 (90 - 55 = 35 degrees). The result is 97.4mm.
  4. Calculate penetration. Your base penetration stat is 100mm. You are at a distance of 100m, so our adjustment for distance leaves us with full 100mm penetration. With the Gaussian distribution, our Shell may have a penetration value of 75mm to 125mm.
  5. Compare penetration to thickness. Our penetration value lies within 75mm - 125mm versus 97.4. We have a more than average chance of penetrating.

  By Chewie

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